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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by Michael Hardesty</title>
		<link>http://www.patiastephens.com/2010/12/05/ayn-rand-received-social-security-medicare/comment-page-5/#comment-24667</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hardesty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hortense, I just saw your incredible ad hominem response to my criticism of the stupid premise that receiving funds from a government that taxes you in every way is theft !
What a moron you are ! 
Rand was not only taxed for SS &amp; Medicare but governments at all levels had been taking tons of her money via the theft of taxes. 
She was writing in an era where incomes above 100K were taxed at the 90% rate. Ask Gore Vidal, no fan of Rand&#039;s.
When the government monopolizes a large segment of medicine are you supposed to die than get some of that stolen loot back for yourself ?
Only an altruist fool would go along with that and Ayn was no altruist.
As far as your psychobabble nonsense that drugs cure egoism, you are are non compos mentos. 
You proved Rand&#039;s premise which is mine too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hortense, I just saw your incredible ad hominem response to my criticism of the stupid premise that receiving funds from a government that taxes you in every way is theft !<br />
What a moron you are !<br />
Rand was not only taxed for SS &amp; Medicare but governments at all levels had been taking tons of her money via the theft of taxes.<br />
She was writing in an era where incomes above 100K were taxed at the 90% rate. Ask Gore Vidal, no fan of Rand&#8217;s.<br />
When the government monopolizes a large segment of medicine are you supposed to die than get some of that stolen loot back for yourself ?<br />
Only an altruist fool would go along with that and Ayn was no altruist.<br />
As far as your psychobabble nonsense that drugs cure egoism, you are are non compos mentos.<br />
You proved Rand&#8217;s premise which is mine too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by RKwas</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKwas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the hate you all spit out for her and others.  So maybe she was wrong, she called out looters, moochers by name, apparently she forgot the haters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the hate you all spit out for her and others.  So maybe she was wrong, she called out looters, moochers by name, apparently she forgot the haters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by JCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By creating a welfare system:
- You punish those who can take care of themselves and reward those how can not
- You Make the service yo provide as government very inefficient and expensive, creating the need to tax even more than nescisary
- You make alternative forms of care that might be much better en effictive redundant
- Take away money form people that could otherwise take care of themselves with that money in a free market

In other words, unless you have a free society you are baically forced to take what the government provides for you or die. Or be VERY wealthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By creating a welfare system:<br />
- You punish those who can take care of themselves and reward those how can not<br />
- You Make the service yo provide as government very inefficient and expensive, creating the need to tax even more than nescisary<br />
- You make alternative forms of care that might be much better en effictive redundant<br />
- Take away money form people that could otherwise take care of themselves with that money in a free market</p>
<p>In other words, unless you have a free society you are baically forced to take what the government provides for you or die. Or be VERY wealthy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by tomwins</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomwins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her ideas failed her in the end! 

Her ideas are failing us all as the teaparty and most Republicans push them on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her ideas failed her in the end! </p>
<p>Her ideas are failing us all as the teaparty and most Republicans push them on us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by Joseph Dimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Dimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 03:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author is wrong. The author is clearly insinuating that Rand&#039;s choice was a concession to statism and altruism by, a: ignoring that the money is stolen property, b: ignoring Rand&#039;s explicit principles that the property was stolen from her.   The authors argument is as follows:  Mr. Kennedy and his friends stole Miss Rands money.  Years later Mr. Kennedy and his friends are offering it back and Miss Rand accepts.  Therefore, Miss Rand is advocating theft since she cooperated with thieves by taking her money back...and p.s. Rand is a thief for making money in the first place because Mr. Kennedy and his friends couldn&#039;t....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author is wrong. The author is clearly insinuating that Rand&#8217;s choice was a concession to statism and altruism by, a: ignoring that the money is stolen property, b: ignoring Rand&#8217;s explicit principles that the property was stolen from her.   The authors argument is as follows:  Mr. Kennedy and his friends stole Miss Rands money.  Years later Mr. Kennedy and his friends are offering it back and Miss Rand accepts.  Therefore, Miss Rand is advocating theft since she cooperated with thieves by taking her money back&#8230;and p.s. Rand is a thief for making money in the first place because Mr. Kennedy and his friends couldn&#8217;t&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by John Rusell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rusell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SloB,

Idolized?
Degeneracy: Corrupt, vulgar, vicious behavior, especially sexual perversion.

&quot;The novel was never finished, but Rand wrote notes for it which were published after her death in the book Journals of Ayn Rand. Rand wanted the hero of her novel to be &quot;[B] A Hickman with a purpose. And without the degeneracy.[/B] It is more exact to say that the model is not Hickman, but what Hickman suggested to me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SloB,</p>
<p>Idolized?<br />
Degeneracy: Corrupt, vulgar, vicious behavior, especially sexual perversion.</p>
<p>&#8220;The novel was never finished, but Rand wrote notes for it which were published after her death in the book Journals of Ayn Rand. Rand wanted the hero of her novel to be &#8220;[B] A Hickman with a purpose. And without the degeneracy.[/B] It is more exact to say that the model is not Hickman, but what Hickman suggested to me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ideas Matter: More on Ayn Rand by Michael R. Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael R. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 23:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bec -

You establish a very dangerous principle: that of unlimited democracy rule (or alternative that of unchecked government power). If the government does something wrong, that is the government&#039;s fault and liability. No one is morally bound to follow it - ever heard of &quot;I was just following orders?&quot; Interestingly, the U.S. government propounded this very same moral principle - that there are morals that transcend law - at the Nuremberg trials. The U.S. government also said that every citizen has a duty to resist immoral law. An amazing thing for a government to maintain.

In any case, all of the recent Internet hate on Rand is preposterous. As any number of people have pointed out, Rand said publicly that any person who opposes statist program should recoup what was taken from them. She said this before age 65, and she did what she said she would. No hypocrisy, no hiddenness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bec -</p>
<p>You establish a very dangerous principle: that of unlimited democracy rule (or alternative that of unchecked government power). If the government does something wrong, that is the government&#8217;s fault and liability. No one is morally bound to follow it &#8211; ever heard of &#8220;I was just following orders?&#8221; Interestingly, the U.S. government propounded this very same moral principle &#8211; that there are morals that transcend law &#8211; at the Nuremberg trials. The U.S. government also said that every citizen has a duty to resist immoral law. An amazing thing for a government to maintain.</p>
<p>In any case, all of the recent Internet hate on Rand is preposterous. As any number of people have pointed out, Rand said publicly that any person who opposes statist program should recoup what was taken from them. She said this before age 65, and she did what she said she would. No hypocrisy, no hiddenness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ideas Matter: More on Ayn Rand by bec</title>
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		<dc:creator>bec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 00:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - As Rand was born overseas and moved to the US of her own volition, she technically DID have a choice. However, once she took residence here, she had to learn to live in a democracy.  As a democracy, the laws are drawn up on the behalf of it&#039;s citizens by their duly elected officials.  There are many laws that one person may disagree with, but for the most part our democracy is majority rule.  Rand DID have the option of doing what thousands of Americans have done before her and protest, organize and even sue the government to have her grievances addressed.  She was not entitled to cherry pick the laws that were to her benefit and eschew others that she disliked.  Don&#039;t like it?  Do something about it.  But to whine and connive that one is some sort of victim of the system is self-indulgent and lazy.  Maybe that is how the bourgeois did it back in St. Petersburg, but this is America.  If Miss Alisa Rosenbaum detested democracy so much and wanted freedom her way, maybe she should have stayed home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; As Rand was born overseas and moved to the US of her own volition, she technically DID have a choice. However, once she took residence here, she had to learn to live in a democracy.  As a democracy, the laws are drawn up on the behalf of it&#8217;s citizens by their duly elected officials.  There are many laws that one person may disagree with, but for the most part our democracy is majority rule.  Rand DID have the option of doing what thousands of Americans have done before her and protest, organize and even sue the government to have her grievances addressed.  She was not entitled to cherry pick the laws that were to her benefit and eschew others that she disliked.  Don&#8217;t like it?  Do something about it.  But to whine and connive that one is some sort of victim of the system is self-indulgent and lazy.  Maybe that is how the bourgeois did it back in St. Petersburg, but this is America.  If Miss Alisa Rosenbaum detested democracy so much and wanted freedom her way, maybe she should have stayed home.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ideas Matter: More on Ayn Rand by WCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>WCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come at the discussion as a  Christian Minister.. I strongly believe Ayn Raqnd&#039;s ideas are at the  core of  our societies problems  today.. This Atheist,&quot; believer of Greed, rejected the  central ideas of the  Christian Faith.. 
No amount of cover-up of  Any Rand&#039;s ideas, beliefs can  change these facts .. No  Golded Rule for  Ms. Rand!!
WCH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come at the discussion as a  Christian Minister.. I strongly believe Ayn Raqnd&#8217;s ideas are at the  core of  our societies problems  today.. This Atheist,&#8221; believer of Greed, rejected the  central ideas of the  Christian Faith..<br />
No amount of cover-up of  Any Rand&#8217;s ideas, beliefs can  change these facts .. No  Golded Rule for  Ms. Rand!!<br />
WCH</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ayn Rand Received Social Security, Medicare by Sir Loin of Beef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Loin of Beef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rand Idolized a serial child-murderer, William Hickman, who was hanged by the state of California in 1927.  She based her last, unfinished novel (&quot;The Little Street&quot;) on this man, who strangled and dismembered a 12-year old girl, then delivered the severed head and torso to her father, who thought he was ransoning his living daughter.

Rand wrote about Hickman in her &quot;journals&quot;:  &quot;The first thing that impresses me about the case is the ferocious rage of a whole society against one man. No matter what the man did, there is always something loathsome in the &#039;virtuous&#039; indignation and mass-hatred of the &#039;majority.&#039;... It is repulsive to see all these beings with worse sins and crimes in their own lives, virtuously condemning a criminal...&quot;

&quot;Worse sins and crimes&quot;? what kind of people was Rand accustomed to? 

This is the the most crytaline statement of sociopathy I&#039;ve ever seen, short of those made by the child-murderer himself.  Rand was a vile skank that is worshipped by self-hating gimps, and her plodding, two-dimensional prose with its heartless &quot;message&quot; should be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand Idolized a serial child-murderer, William Hickman, who was hanged by the state of California in 1927.  She based her last, unfinished novel (&#8220;The Little Street&#8221;) on this man, who strangled and dismembered a 12-year old girl, then delivered the severed head and torso to her father, who thought he was ransoning his living daughter.</p>
<p>Rand wrote about Hickman in her &#8220;journals&#8221;:  &#8220;The first thing that impresses me about the case is the ferocious rage of a whole society against one man. No matter what the man did, there is always something loathsome in the &#8216;virtuous&#8217; indignation and mass-hatred of the &#8216;majority.&#8217;&#8230; It is repulsive to see all these beings with worse sins and crimes in their own lives, virtuously condemning a criminal&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Worse sins and crimes&#8221;? what kind of people was Rand accustomed to? </p>
<p>This is the the most crytaline statement of sociopathy I&#8217;ve ever seen, short of those made by the child-murderer himself.  Rand was a vile skank that is worshipped by self-hating gimps, and her plodding, two-dimensional prose with its heartless &#8220;message&#8221; should be forgotten.</p>
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